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(I've decided to talk about something else entirely to try and stop thinking about recent things that have made my mood bad, plus the excessive heatwave that makes me want to start sacrificing things to the sun hoping when it gets full of people it will stop trying to kill us all with heat! Personally, I think the sun has a taste for children - you don't hear near as much about children (babies) freezing to death in cars over the winter, but in summer the sun is apparently hungry, and has some weird mind-power that makes parents forget they've left their kids in their cars. *coughs* Sorry, but the heat really is making me insane.)


Okay, on some rant communities rants about authors not using said has come up recently, and while they weren't addressing me (or my fics) specifically - it's made me think about a beta reader who once told me that I needed to use more "said" instead of other things. This person assured me people wouldn't notice because no one notices said in books.

I called bullshit, BUT only to myself, but I certainly notice said, and get real tired of reading the damn word over and over and over again. However, I didn't say anything, because at the time I wasn't sure I'd be able to say it politely.

Now admittedly in the works of others it generally doesn't bother me too much, unless the author never uses something else. It's when I look back over my stuff and find that if there are too many saids I feel the whole story is bland and boring.

To be fair, thanks to that persons feedback, I do try to force myself to use said more, but in the end I think I've went the Rowling route - "She said excitedly" instead of just "she said." Although with Rowling it would be "said Whoever excitedly," but still the point stands.


Just to go all TMI today - I also hate it when rape and non-con are used interchangeably in fic labeling. Yes, I know all is rape, but one is something I don't mind reading fics about and the other is something I wish to avoid avoid avoid. I understand for some people that all non-con is rape, and in the real word it is - not disputing that. But in context of fic (i.e. kinks) I do think fandom needs a way to establish that one fic is hard-core rape fic (i.e. rape), and one is simply lacking consent or consent is forced/questionable. Yes, in the real world both are rape, but again one I don't mind reading a fic with, the other I'd rather not, so it annoys me when a fic is marked raped/non-con because that doesn't help me decide if I want to read the fic or not.

 
 
 
 
 
 
Well there's told or admitted which could substitute in some cases, but it's up to you. :)
Yeah, it's one of those things that isn't a big deal, it's just that I hate it when people claim that no one actually reads the word said, cause I know at least one person that does (me) and kind of gets tired of seeing it sometimes.
I tend to use 'said' sparingly. JKR's repetitious use of it drove me bonkers. As for the adverbs, it is usually preferred that they be used sparingly (oh, snap - there's one now!) so I end up trying to find ways to avoid using them. "omgyay!" she squealed in excitement.
Well, to be fair, when the person told me that I wasn't using said enough, I was admittedly going out of my way to use anything but said - my characters was always replying, squealing, muttering, whispering, yelling, and so on but never actually saying anything. What's weird is that I don't have that issue with asked, because my characters can (and do) just ask questions sometimes. So, I freely admit that person had a point - I just hate the idea that many people seem to have that no one sees the word said when they're reading, cause as I said above at least one person (me, and now I know you) see it, and can sometimes actually get tired of seeing it.

Anyway, after that person told me that I tried to use said more, but I've recently come to realize that in doing so I've been going the Rowling route, and that maybe I'd be better off just going back to the way I originally did things.
Some writers use only 'said' every time a character speaks. That's about the only time I stop seeing it.

I had a professor in Middle School who collected Tom Swifties, which is probably why I try strenuously to avoid pairing adverbs with 'said'. Especially because I write about a character named Tom!:)
*grins* For me it's actually worse if said is all they use, but most of the time professional authors are fairly good at not using said all the time (though most use it enough to leave me hearing the characters saying everything in a monotone voice), they do break it up with a few whispers and replies at the very least.

As for the books (or books) you mentioned, I've never seen (or heard) about them.